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Darth Gustav
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Posted - 2012.05.10 02:10:00 -
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Saia Tae Arragosa wrote:What about a skill training boost bonus for different levels of security - but only if you are part of a corp. Saying moving to 0.0 and joining a corp gives you a skill bonus boost of x3. That would be very good incentive for players to move to 0.0 I would think. Also, what if there were a incentive to corps that operate out of those areas to recruit new players. Corps that recruit new players into their ranks and keeps a new recruit for a certain period of time sees some kind of bonus that would benefit the corp. Server-based, NPC-driven, rules-lawyer mechanics do not make for compelling gameplay.
Human beings make for compelling gameplay.
I don't care "what way" you play - mine or any other. Other people are more engaging than, essentially, a pixelated potato being mined by beams. He who trolls trolls best when he who is trolled trolls the troller. -Darth Gustav's Axiom |

Darth Gustav
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Posted - 2012.05.10 02:14:00 -
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Doctor Ungabungas wrote:Perramas wrote:Im not an o.o player, Im one of those who CCP Soundwave wishes to push by brute force into o.o space. The way to get me to stay in the game and move to o.o space would be to let me respec all the millions and millions of skillpoints I have in science, industry mining barges and exhumers into gunnery and spaceship skills. Otherwise I am nothing but a red plus or asteroid to be farmed or harvested. I do not wish to be farmed because I invested my training time into noncombat skills. There's no reason why you couldn't be a 0.0 player though. There are minerals and missions and complexes in 0.0 and they are all more profitable than in empire. The main reason you don't go is that you think that the second you enter you'll be ganked by 50 dudes, when the reality is that miners are more likely to be ganked in highsec these days. Let's not forget that the implication here is that he cannot accrue suitable combat skills in the future because he cannot respec out of industry and mining and science skills which he already chose.
Last I checked, the skill queue marches on... He who trolls trolls best when he who is trolled trolls the troller. -Darth Gustav's Axiom |

Darth Gustav
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Posted - 2012.05.10 02:28:00 -
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Bane Necran wrote:I'm getting a bit tired of repeating myself, but the reason hisec people stay in hisec isn't because they fear PvP. They fear gatecamps. They die to impossible odds right at the door to the full PvP areas, without having a chance to even explore them.
If they could get in and out of full PvP areas relatively safely, then only have to worry about someone hunting them while they are there, many, many, more people would be outside of hisec.
Gates need to go, or be changed so they can't be camped. They are the core problem here. I know many people hate the idea of losing their easymode gatecamp PvP, and having to actively search for targets instead of them landing in their lap, but it's really what's best for the game. This is the funniest thing I've ever read. Posting to confirm that, nominally speaking, entering lowsec is as routine as you make it.
That said, why fear a camp when you can just use a scout and the damned map? He who trolls trolls best when he who is trolled trolls the troller. -Darth Gustav's Axiom |

Darth Gustav
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Posted - 2012.05.10 02:34:00 -
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Bane Necran wrote:Darth Gustav wrote:This is the funniest thing I've ever read. You obviously don't read much, but i already suspected that. Quote:That said, why fear a camp when you can just use a scout and the damned map? Spoken like someone who's always been in 0.0, and can find scouts easily. This just in: The NPE happens in high-sec. Check my KB. Many kills (especially early on) are in low-sec. Some even in high-sec.
I said use a scout, not find a scout. Or didn't you know CCP hands out free trials? He who trolls trolls best when he who is trolled trolls the troller. -Darth Gustav's Axiom |

Darth Gustav
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Posted - 2012.05.10 02:37:00 -
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Darth Tickles wrote:You probably have to keep repeating that argument because it is so blatantly awful.
Again, if you think you're going to go take on lowsec all by yourself in your mission drake, you've already failed the transition. If getting blown up at your first gate doesn't teach you that lesson and instead makes you give up never to try again, then you were doomed anyway.
I do find it absolutely ball-busting hilarious that the people who have stuck themselves in hisec think they are in any way qualified to tell people who have made the transition what needs to change. AGREED! It's a matter of, "Excuse me, jailor. My prison cell is just a bit too drab. Could you take this very unbecoming door off of here, please?"
Also, nice hoodie bro! He who trolls trolls best when he who is trolled trolls the troller. -Darth Gustav's Axiom |

Darth Gustav
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Posted - 2012.05.10 02:44:00 -
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Doctor Ungabungas wrote:Bane Necran wrote:Doctor Ungabungas wrote:You're wrong - existing players won't go to open PvP areas no matter what aspects of the game are changed. Ok, Nostradamus. I think for some of you, the idea you have about hisec players has become out of touch with reality. Given that newbees can adapt to 0.0 life perfectly easily, it seems to me that the problem isn't with the horrors of dangerous space so much as it is the players who are stuck in high sec. Oh snap! You weren't supposed to make sense! He who trolls trolls best when he who is trolled trolls the troller. -Darth Gustav's Axiom |

Darth Gustav
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Posted - 2012.05.10 02:58:00 -
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Darth Tickles wrote:Bane Necran wrote:They don't call them nullbears for nothing. What is there to adapt to? See stranger in local - warp to safety.
The hardest thing about living in 0.0 is getting there. After you're there, it's even safer than hisec. Ignoring the classic misconceptions and falsehoods, getting there is actually the easiest part. You just set your med clone and kill yourself. Again, you really have absolutely no clue what you're talking about, and unless you want to act as a caricature for us to use as examples, I suggest you just stop. I think Tickles just scored the /thread. He who trolls trolls best when he who is trolled trolls the troller. -Darth Gustav's Axiom |

Darth Gustav
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Posted - 2012.05.10 03:08:00 -
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Bane Necran wrote:Darth Tickles wrote:You just set your med clone and kill yourself. Where's the fun in that? I've always gotten there the ole fashioned way. Quote:Again, you really have absolutely no clue what you're talking about, and unless you want to act as a caricature for us to use as examples, I suggest you just stop.
Sorry to interrupt all your sweeping generalizations about hisec people you never interact with. Your flawed thinking and flawed assumptions have failed to get people to leave hisec time and time again already, but please, go on. I'm sorry, you said you were afraid of gates and then told him his reasoning for how you can avoid them is flawed.
Tickles totally /threaded your miserable ass. He who trolls trolls best when he who is trolled trolls the troller. -Darth Gustav's Axiom |

Darth Gustav
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Posted - 2012.05.11 07:28:00 -
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Akirei Scytale wrote:Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:Funny how "the novelty wore off" at the exact same time as the anom nerf
Never done an anomaly in 0.0  I'd stayed in hi sec if I wanted to shoot red crosses you know. But hey, as I posted above, it's 0.0 players who flip their alts back and from hi sec, NOT hi sec players. It was pretty solid ISK, easily the best you could make easily and reliably when shooting NPCs, pre-incursion. This statement is true. Anomalies are good ISK. I'm telling the truth. He who trolls trolls best when he who is trolled trolls the troller. -Darth Gustav's Axiom |

Darth Gustav
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Posted - 2012.05.11 17:15:00 -
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Kieron VonDeux wrote:Soloman Swift wrote:I wrote a big long post but the forum swallowed it.
As someone who WANTS to be in null sec but has been part of and seen way too many of the downsides to the corps/alliances/mechanics/mindset of null sec:
Why would I give up other aspects of the EvE experience (Econ/Industry) to move to somewhere in a perma pvp mode with a bunch of people who, going by the forums and experience in game, get their kicks from being rude and treating anyone whos not in their little clique like a tool?
Sounds as much fun as chewing staples. Very well written. YMMV. He who trolls trolls best when he who is trolled trolls the troller. -Darth Gustav's Axiom |

Darth Gustav
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Posted - 2012.05.12 00:15:00 -
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Nephilius wrote:Alavaria Fera wrote:Mars Theran wrote:Yeah, you are mistaken. 0.0 is safe for anyone moving within territories controlled by, (or at least safeguarded by), their Alliance, but for anyone else it is essentially a Deathtrap. So, this is a setup for a joint "lol nullbear" and "~honor~less blobbers" post, right? I wouldn't even go so far with that idea. I see this thread as a haphazard attempt to bridge the gap between the two sectors. Seriously though, no trolling or being facetious, what nulsec alliance would allow anyone who isn't blue to traipse through their territory unmolested? Well...I mean besides a NRDS alliance.  I don't know...I've been thinking about Nulsec, just don't know yet...I actually want to. Do not hesitate. Go. Join the corp of your choice, move your medical clone to their facilities, and pod yourself via self-destruct.
Leave your assets in high-sec as a "safety net" and go out there. You can always go back and sell them later.
I did. He who trolls trolls best when he who is trolled trolls the troller. -Darth Gustav's Axiom |
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